looking for some advice.. (PDF)

fulanito_uk · 03-25-2010, 09:27 AM

Dear All,

-forgive me if i have posted in the wrong area-

Some time ago I asked if there was any ereader that could handle pDf's well the response was pretty negative. Does this still stand or have their been advances? I fly a lot of flight simulators on my pc which have 100+ page pdf manuals so i think it makes sense to invest in one of these gadgets instead of printing which i guess will work out more expensive over time. Is their any good pdf Ereader out there? i was thinking about the "Bookeen Cybook Gen 3 eBook Reader"

the kind of pdf and images can be seen below.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2327687/PM...l-EGLL-to-KLAX

Thanks for your time

ChrisC333 · 03-25-2010, 10:06 AM

Hi,

I'm no expert but my guess would be that many of the E-ink readers screens would be too small to give a really clear view of complete charts and tables in quite the way you'd like. The Kindle DX looks a better size, but still lacks the colour that would really help with those screen-shot photos and even some diagrams that use colour.

I have a small notebook/netbook computer that cost very little which I use as an ebook reader and it could work OK for that. I can rotate the whole screen display 90 degrees and then hold it like a regular hard-back book to read. It could free stand on the desk like that, next to the main screen. Scrolling could be done either by tapping a key or clicking an attached mouse.

Might just be a possibility worth checking out anyway.

Cheers,

Chris

charleski · 03-25-2010, 10:22 AM

For your particular use it would seem that a larger screen with colour is more important than battery life and the ability to read in a range of environments, which suggests an LCD device. As Chris said, a small netbook or an iPad would probably be the best choice.

ChrisC333 · 03-25-2010, 10:36 AM

Here's what I had in mind.

It's an Acer eM250 with a 10" screen. Cheap as chips. It cost me about the same as my E-ink reader but is far more versatile if, as charleski said, long battery life etc isn't an issue.

Click for a closer view

fulanito_uk · 03-25-2010, 01:34 PM

thanks guys... I have a samsung Q1 and the laptop i'm using right now is a tablet so i think i can use it as you have... I guess I was looking for a reason to buy a new toy. Thanks again

TGS · 03-25-2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fulanito_uk

Dear All,

-forgive me if i have posted in the wrong area-

Some time ago I asked if there was any ereader that could handle pDf's well the response was pretty negative. Does this still stand or have their been advances? I fly a lot of flight simulators on my pc which have 100+ page pdf manuals so i think it makes sense to invest in one of these gadgets instead of printing which i guess will work out more expensive over time. Is their any good pdf Ereader out there? i was thinking about the "Bookeen Cybook Gen 3 eBook Reader"

the kind of pdf and images can be seen below.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2327687/PM...l-EGLL-to-KLAX

Thanks for your time

IREX sell their DR1000 and DR800 to the aviation industry where the are re-badged, loaded with different software, and sold as Portable Aviation Information Managers. See here for info.

ChrisC333 · 03-25-2010, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TGS

IREX sell their DR1000 and DR800 to the aviation industry where the are re-badged, loaded with different software, and sold as Portable Aviation Information Managers. See here for info.

Good find.

It definitely looks the part, and it could even be strapped on the knee/thigh like the pads/boards that are apparently used by some pilots.

Presumably they're still not colour, and the price is pretty stiff. But when you really want a new toy it's often not the price that's the clincher, it's finding the right excuse to buy... That could be a contender.

TGS · 03-25-2010, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisC333

Good find.

That could be a contender.

I wouldn't want to be paying Solid FX's prices though - just buy a regular DR and load your own manuals!

fulanito_uk · 03-26-2010, 06:02 AM

Thanks those readers look amazing but a little out of my price range

Bremen Cole · 03-26-2010, 06:59 AM

@fulanito_uk

I have to agree with chrisC333. I have a netbook (see sig) and find that it is a good reader
(including PDF's with Foxit reader), plus I run Photoshop, iTunes, MS Office, emulators, ton's of other things... and of course web and email. They are also comparable in price to standard ereaders, and cheaper than the larger screen ones.. ... (mine was $329)..... with a 10" screen.

Anyway, I know you seem to be looking for a dedicated reader, but without a doubt a netbook would fit yours needs....

gastan · 03-26-2010, 10:03 AM

How about a used Motion Computing slate like this one on eBay?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Motion-M1400-tab...item4a9fa9599e

12" (30.7cm) screen, stylus touch screen, 1.1Ghz Centrino CPU, 40G HD, Win TabletPC OS, wifi, etc..

This is just one example. More available in different price ranges. My brother just bought one off eBay and it is in wonderful condition and works great. I think his winning bid was US$240 -- still cheaper than a large screen e-reader.

edit:
Here is a slate on the UK eBay site. Different model but still a 12.1" screen, 1.5Ghz CPU, 30G HD, on board wifi, etc.. £179 plus shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTION-COMPUTI...item53e0628d12

DawnFalcon · 03-27-2010, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bremen Cole

Anyway, I know you seem to be looking for a dedicated reader, but without a doubt a netbook would fit yours needs....

Equally, if you wait for the Summer, the slate-version of those netbooks, the EeePad and so on will be here. So if you want the slate format, but epaper and battery life are not your primary concern...wait 3 months, then come back.

pilotbob · 03-28-2010, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisC333

Presumably they're still not colour, and the price is pretty stiff. But when you really want a new toy it's often not the price that's the clincher, it's finding the right excuse to buy... That could be a contender.

If you want color consider the iPad.

You might also want to look at the Edge... which has a b&w eInk screen and a Color LCD screen.

BOb

03-25-2010, 09:27 AM	#1
fulanito_uk Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	looking for some advice.. (PDF) Dear All, -forgive me if i have posted in the wrong area- Some time ago I asked if there was any ereader that could handle pDf's well the response was pretty negative. Does this still stand or have their been advances? I fly a lot of flight simulators on my pc which have 100+ page pdf manuals so i think it makes sense to invest in one of these gadgets instead of printing which i guess will work out more expensive over time. Is their any good pdf Ereader out there? i was thinking about the "Bookeen Cybook Gen 3 eBook Reader" the kind of pdf and images can be seen below. http://www.scribd.com/doc/2327687/PM...l-EGLL-to-KLAX Thanks for your time

03-25-2010, 10:36 AM	#4
ChrisC333 Groupie Posts: 194 Karma: 2031 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Australia Device: Acer eM250 Netbook, iTouch, iRiver Story, HP TM2 Tablet	Here's what I had in mind. It's an Acer eM250 with a 10" screen. Cheap as chips. It cost me about the same as my E-ink reader but is far more versatile if, as charleski said, long battery life etc isn't an issue. Click for a closer view Attached Thumbnails Last edited by ChrisC333; 03-25-2010 at 10:44 AM. Reason: Added info

03-26-2010, 10:03 AM	#11
gastan Addict Posts: 221 Karma: 801624 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: US Pacific Northwest Device: LePan II, Kobo Aura	How about a used Motion Computing slate like this one on eBay? http://cgi.ebay.com/Motion-M1400-tab...item4a9fa9599e 12" (30.7cm) screen, stylus touch screen, 1.1Ghz Centrino CPU, 40G HD, Win TabletPC OS, wifi, etc.. This is just one example. More available in different price ranges. My brother just bought one off eBay and it is in wonderful condition and works great. I think his winning bid was US$240 -- still cheaper than a large screen e-reader. edit: Here is a slate on the UK eBay site. Different model but still a 12.1" screen, 1.5Ghz CPU, 30G HD, on board wifi, etc.. £179 plus shipping. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MOTION-COMPUTI...item53e0628d12 Last edited by gastan; 03-26-2010 at 12:09 PM. Reason: added content

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03-25-2010, 10:06 AM	#2
ChrisC333 Groupie Posts: 194 Karma: 2031 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Australia Device: Acer eM250 Netbook, iTouch, iRiver Story, HP TM2 Tablet	Hi, I'm no expert but my guess would be that many of the E-ink readers screens would be too small to give a really clear view of complete charts and tables in quite the way you'd like. The Kindle DX looks a better size, but still lacks the colour that would really help with those screen-shot photos and even some diagrams that use colour. I have a small notebook/netbook computer that cost very little which I use as an ebook reader and it could work OK for that. I can rotate the whole screen display 90 degrees and then hold it like a regular hard-back book to read. It could free stand on the desk like that, next to the main screen. Scrolling could be done either by tapping a key or clicking an attached mouse. Might just be a possibility worth checking out anyway. Cheers, Chris

03-25-2010, 10:22 AM	#3
charleski Wizard Posts: 1,196 Karma: 1281258 Join Date: Sep 2009 Device: PRS-505	For your particular use it would seem that a larger screen with colour is more important than battery life and the ability to read in a range of environments, which suggests an LCD device. As Chris said, a small netbook or an iPad would probably be the best choice.

03-25-2010, 01:34 PM	#5
fulanito_uk Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	thanks guys... I have a samsung Q1 and the laptop i'm using right now is a tablet so i think i can use it as you have... I guess I was looking for a reason to buy a new toy. Thanks again

03-26-2010, 06:02 AM	#9
fulanito_uk Junior Member Posts: 9 Karma: 10 Join Date: Oct 2009 Device: none	Thanks those readers look amazing but a little out of my price range

03-26-2010, 06:59 AM	#10
Bremen Cole Wizard Posts: 1,115 Karma: 2718 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Texas Device: iPad	@fulanito_uk I have to agree with chrisC333. I have a netbook (see sig) and find that it is a good reader (including PDF's with Foxit reader), plus I run Photoshop, iTunes, MS Office, emulators, ton's of other things... and of course web and email. They are also comparable in price to standard ereaders, and cheaper than the larger screen ones.. ... (mine was $329)..... with a 10" screen. Anyway, I know you seem to be looking for a dedicated reader, but without a doubt a netbook would fit yours needs....

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