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Old 02-10-2022, 04:10 PM   #76
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Probably you have close to 0.3% of everyone that ever lived.
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Old 02-10-2022, 04:15 PM   #77
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A book I just could not read is War and Peace... If I ever find a version where all the french parts are translated within the text itself (maybe in italics or something), I will definitely give it a go.
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I highly recommend the Ann Dunnigan translation. In effect she signals that a passage was originally in French by starting off with a word or two and then shifting to English. And aside from that, it’s a very smooth, readable version.
The Signet Classics version of the Ann Dunnigan translation of War and Peace is $1.99. Worth picking up.
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Old 02-12-2022, 03:05 AM   #78
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My top (bottom? ) three

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
Moby Dick - Herman Melville

I finished the first, but never made it to the end of the other two
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Old 02-12-2022, 04:34 AM   #79
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I don’t see how this fits the “lying poseur” element.
Because saying you like books with too much racism seems like a lie.
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Old 02-12-2022, 04:35 AM   #80
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Another book to add to the list is Mein Kempf.
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Old 02-12-2022, 11:35 AM   #81
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Does anyone claim to like that?
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Old 02-12-2022, 11:42 AM   #82
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Another book to add to the list is Mein Kempf.
Knock it off.
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Old 02-13-2022, 01:39 AM   #83
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My top (bottom? ) three

One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
Moby Dick - Herman Melville

I finished the first, but never made it to the end of the other two
I read Heart of Darkness, but I know that's one I would have been better off reading in a discussion group.
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Old 02-13-2022, 11:49 AM   #84
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I'm going to have to go with Life of Pi, for the crime of abusing the unreliable narrator trope beyond the limits of human endurance.

(By the way, apropos of other books mentioned here, it's always been my position that The Road is nothing more than a post-modern retelling of The Old Man and the Sea.)

As far as "the Classics" go, anyone who claims they actually enjoyed Last of the Mohicans is the ultimate poseur.

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Old 02-13-2022, 12:48 PM   #85
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As far as "the Classics" go, anyone who claims they actually enjoyed Last of the Mohicans is the ultimate poseur.
Oddly I've not read that, but his "The Pilot" is a quite good adventure yarn on the English Coast. The real guy story is based on was from Scotland, joined USA Navy, captured a British ship in Belfast Lough at anchor near Carrickfergus (Belfast was tiny then so it was Carrickfergus Lough then) and later he was in the Russian Imperial Navy. British regarded him as a Pirate.
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I never really _got_ the fuss about Hemingway. I'm going to try The Sun also Rises. I like the subject--the lost (i.e. dissipated?) American generation in Paris in the 20s. I skimmed it so far. The prose is simple and effective, but special? Nope. What looked interesting were the dissipated and bohemian character getting sloshed.
Same! I was hyped to try The Sun Also Rises but his writing style and the characters flattened my enjoyment.

As to Steinbeck, I want to read the rest of his. I loved Of Mice and Men and Grapes of Wrath, but meh on The Pearl

A classic I detest for every reason possible and genuinely don't get the appeal or lasting effect was a newer classic, Where the Red Fern grows *shudders*

I'm usually pickier with melodramatic Victorian prose and found Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde disappointing, but I was surprised that I absolutely loved Frankenstein, and many seem to feel the opposite. Dracula has some boring parts but I loved the first and last quarter. It was fun re-reading it on audiobook production.

Oh, and the Thornbirds! I hated that book and am surprised so many list it as a favorite.

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Oh, and the Thornbirds! I hated that book and am surprised so many list it as a favorite.
Huh, I enjoyed The Thornbirds.
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Huh, I enjoyed The Thornbirds.
I don’t think The Thorn Birds qualifies in this category; it’s long, but it’s not difficult nor especially boring, unless sweeping family sagas aren’t your thing. They’re not mine, but TB doesn’t seem worse or duller than most; the contrary, in fact.

A factoid that amuses me is that The Thorn Birds and Love Story were written within a few years of each other in New Haven, Conn. while their respective authors were employed at Yale. Was it something in the water?
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I read The Thorn Birds many years ago. I don't remember being fond of it but also don't recall it being difficult to read in the way that some of the other books discussed here would be.
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Guess it's just me with The Thorn Birds, but I found it dull throughout, flat, and a difficult read. Hated the writing.
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