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Eventually developers are going to go with the one format that all devices can access. We're in a period of transition. And...flash doesn't work well anywhere BUT on traditional PC's. Quote:
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It would help if you actually USED these devices, instead of dragging up stories on the web to back up your arguements. |
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Flash works just fine on my Droid X, just because Steve- O says a leg is a tail doesn't actually make that true you know. It's still a leg. you keep telling me there is nothing ios can't access because of Flash. Accessing it or having it run the way it was meant to run without a work around and additional modifications are two different things. Sure it may or may not come to the point where HTML5 is the defacto standard, but how many years away is that? and that isn't even a given. On android you can access Flash and HTML5. Face it Apple thought it was big enough where it felt that if they said jump the entire tech industry would say "How High" well it didn't happen. Apple dumped Flash years to early. |
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Flash runs very smoothly on my Galaxy S as well. I daresay it could be made to run fine on an iPhone.
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But...why would you bother using the devices when you can just troll anyways?
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I'm not sure how you could come to that conclusion -- iOS is a vibrant, mainstream, growing ecosystem...without Flash.
If anything, they picked the right time to do it...when technology would allow their hundreds of millions of users to access and enjoy the web and their devices without it. That's the benefit of the open web -- there's no one right way to get to and consume all the information that's out there. Interesting dichotomy though: proponents of an open OS (Android) defending a more closed system (Android) over a more open one (HTML5). |
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While iOS does currently provide better support for some areas of HTML5, it's not true to say that Android doesn't support HTML5 at all, with the support being improved all the time. Graham |
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The fact remains Flash is still the defacto standard for web browsing media playback. but this still comes back to my origianal response. Apple said Flash was dead, said it was going to die rather quickly. All the iSheep responded by saying "All Hail Lord Steve, if you say it then it must be true, now we will go out and preach the gospel on internet forums and blogs telling the world how Apple and you are God". well it's still here, it's still the standard and it's still an achilles heel on your iDevices. Every Con : No Flash support. Last edited by boswd; 07-12-2011 at 02:31 PM. |
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There was a typo in my last sentence. I meant to contrast flash with html5, not android. And again, there is no evidence that it's an Achilles heel. Anyone seen any?
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Don't know, don't use any iOS product. If they've got a problem with Flash, well, that's their problem, not mine...
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Arguably more people would buy Apple products if they opened up iOS to Flash (and if they really were thinking of their users they would have Flash disabled as standard and have a deeply hidden switch somewhere -- that would work so that only those who know what they are doing would be using it). Being able to use Flash is becoming a selling point for Android. Yes, there are some issues with Flash, even on a PC, occasionally. Nothing is perfect. But I am more than happy with it on my phone. A lot of websites I use do offer lower quality HTML5 versions of their videos --- but why should I do this to myself? And all those "workarounds" definitely don't make iOS easy to use. Out of the box "it just doesn't work" with many websites.
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Almost every website out there serves content to mobile browsers including mobile safari -- no workarounds needed. And HTML5 is not 'lower quality'. If it's lower quality, its because it was transcoded that way. All HTML5 does is call the video. |
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The reason I found out about this is that I tried switching to HTML5 when my connection was really slow when traveling. Last edited by HansTWN; 07-13-2011 at 03:03 AM. |
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