Improved Charis SIL with smallcaps - Page 13

zecoj · 02-21-2022, 05:23 AM

@JSWolf,

Thanks for your work on this. Love this font but I think just found a bug. I found the letter ư is not displayed in italic at all although all accompanying accent marks are. Please see the screenshot for what I meant. Rectangles in red are where it should be displayed in italic. Rectangles in green are where it's displayed up correctly in normal font.

DNSB · 02-21-2022, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zecoj

@JSWolf,

Thanks for your work on this. Love this font but I think just found a bug. I found the letter ư is not displayed in italic at all although all accompanying accent marks are. Please see the screenshot for what I meant. Rectangles in red are where it should be displayed in italic. Rectangles in green are where it's displayed up correctly in normal font.

I used FontForge to take a quick look at Jon's ChareInk version of Charis SIL 5 in both the italic and regular version. As you can see from the attached image, the italic variant is missing all the accented lower case u with horns. This is corrected in the Charis SIL 6.101 version (see the third image).

I've been using the Charis SIL 6 with added weight and am quite happy with it.

DNSB · 02-21-2022, 04:06 PM

I was going to add this as an edit to my previous message but decided to add it as a new reply. The version of Charis SIL 6.101 I am using is a modified version, reducing the line spacing. For my personal use, renaming the font was not necessary but for this post, I've renamed the font to Charis6eInk to comply with requirements for posting modified versions. I did not change the font weight since I use the Advanced slider to change the font weight.

zecoj · 02-21-2022, 05:48 PM

Hey David,

Thanks for the insight and sharing your mod of version 6.101. I had a play with it but I think it's a bit too light for my taste.

zecoj · 02-21-2022, 07:17 PM

So I used Fontforge to fixed those characters and found some few others in the BoldItalic file as well. Simply copy the vanilla u/U/O and "Paste into..." into the missing ones. Not sure if I've stuffed anything up in the process.

Sharing what I've fixed...

DNSB · 02-21-2022, 09:58 PM

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I did not change the font weight since I use the Advanced slider to change the font weight.

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Originally Posted by zecoj

Hey David,

Thanks for the insight and sharing your mod of version 6.101. I had a play with it but I think it's a bit too light for my taste.

That's why the comment about using the Advanced option to increase the font weight. This does assume that you have added that option in the KoboPatch installer.

As an alternative if you don't have the patch installed, you should be able to add:

Code:

readingFontWeight\Charis6eInk=0.67

under the [Reading] header in the Kobo eReader.conf file (located in the .kobo/Kobo directory).

zecoj · 02-21-2022, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

That's why the comment about using the Advanced option to increase the font weight. This does assume that you have added that option in the KoboPatch installer.

Should have mentioned that I use KOreader and I couldn't produce the result I wanted with the Font Weight option...

DNSB · 02-21-2022, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by zecoj

Should have mentioned that I use KOreader and I couldn't produce the result I wanted with the Font Weight option...

Yeah, KOReader does it's own thing with fonts.

kyrilson · 02-22-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

I was going to add this as an edit to my previous message but decided to add it as a new reply. The version of Charis SIL 6.101 I am using is a modified version to reducing the line spacing. For my personal use, renaming the font was not necessary but for this post, I've renamed the font to Charis6eInk to comply with requirements for posting modified versions. I did not change the font weight since I use the Advanced slider to change the font weight.

This font is excellent. Thank you for sharing!

JSWolf · 04-15-2022, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

I was going to add this as an edit to my previous message but decided to add it as a new reply. The version of Charis SIL 6.101 I am using is a modified version, reducing the line spacing. For my personal use, renaming the font was not necessary but for this post, I've renamed the font to Charis6eInk to comply with requirements for posting modified versions. I did not change the font weight since I use the Advanced slider to change the font weight.

Does it have kerning? What I've been thinking of doing is using the kerning table(s) I have with ChareInk to make a new version using the v6.x Charis SIL.

DNSB · 04-15-2022, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JSWolf

Does it have kerning? What I've been thinking of doing is using the kerning table(s) I have with ChareInk to make a new version using the v6.x Charis SIL.

Out of the box, I don't think that the 6.101 Charis SIL has kerning.

JSWolf · 04-15-2022, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

Out of the box, I don't think that the 6.101 Charis SIL has kerning.

I was wondering if you added kerning. I added kerning to Charis SIL to ChareInk. I'm thinking of pulling out the kerning tables and adding them to the latest version of Charis SIL. I'll edit the line spacing to match and yes, some added glyphs won't have kerning, but they will be the lesser used glyphs.

kyrilson · 04-19-2022, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

Out of the box, I don't think that the 6.101 Charis SIL has kerning.

That is interesting! I thought most fonts have some type of kerning. I mean it is kind of dangerous to not have kerning, otherwise you can end up with some pretty illegible text. An easy way to tell bad kerning is to turn the text upside down. A lot of times, gaps will stand right out.

DNSB · 04-19-2022, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kyrilson

That is interesting! I thought most fonts have some type of kerning. I mean it is kind of dangerous to not have kerning, otherwise you can end up with some pretty illegible text. An easy way to tell bad kerning is to turn the text upside down. A lot of times, gaps will stand right out.

When I check the Font Info in FontForge, using the Lookup tool, none of the tables under the GPOS tab show any content whereas in a font that has kerning there are entries with content.

JSWolf · 04-19-2022, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DNSB

When I check the Font Info in FontForge, using the Lookup tool, none of the tables under the GPOS tab show any content whereas in a font that has kerning there are entries with content.

What I am planning on doing is saving the GPOS tables and then importing them with the newer Charis SIL. I'll see how that goes. I'm not sure if I'll make a version with added weight. But I'll decide on that some other time.

02-21-2022, 05:23 AM	#181
zecoj Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kobo Aura HD	Missing letter ư @JSWolf, Thanks for your work on this. Love this font but I think just found a bug. I found the letter ư is not displayed in italic at all although all accompanying accent marks are. Please see the screenshot for what I meant. Rectangles in red are where it should be displayed in italic. Rectangles in green are where it's displayed up correctly in normal font. Attached Thumbnails

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02-21-2022, 05:48 PM	#184
zecoj Member Posts: 13 Karma: 10 Join Date: Mar 2014 Device: Kobo Aura HD	Hey David, Thanks for the insight and sharing your mod of version 6.101. I had a play with it but I think it's a bit too light for my taste.

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