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Originally Posted by fjtorres
Exactly.
When traditional publishers are publicly and openly complaining that they aren't getting as many good manuscripts and that the prices for the ones they like are going sky high you know the good writers are going elsewhere. Also, Indie publishing =/= exactly the same thing as self publishing.
"Self publishing" includes vanity press victims like Author Solutions (owned and operated by the BPHs) whereas Indie publishing includes many "micro press" operations and a few author-owned businesses that are actually bigger than many small tradpubs. (Like WMG PUBLISHING and Kevin Anderson's side business.) And some authirs are both indie and tradpub. It's not an either of proposition.
It's an entire spectrum of different business models that share one signature trait: independence from the entire agent/tradpub/critic establishment. That is where indie comes from.
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I could probably name a dozen NYT best selling indies.